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The number of hate groups in the U.S. rose for a second year in a row in 2016 as the radical right was energized by the candidacy of Donald Trump, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.
In the aftermath of the white supremacist "Unite the Right" rally that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia over the weekend, many are wondering what drives people to join racist hate groups.
For a firsthand account of what it's like to take part in the white supremacist movement, The Takeaway turns to Timothy Zaal, a former skinhead and current speaker at the Museum of Tolerance in Los Angeles.
"Wake up. You're a pawn. You're being used," he says.
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This segment is hosted by Todd Zwillich.
